Can anyone tell me which is the correct key for this small yale padlock?

candado3

I have a small brass yale padlock that I would like to get a key for.
A flat key fits the lock and I made a key out of copper sheet that will open the lock but would like to get a proper key if possible.
The plug measures 0.40in diam (7.11mm) and the keyway is 0.28in long (10.16mm) and is wider at the bottom than at the top. see photos
There are also the following letters and numbers on the bottom of the lock, U T 2385. Could these be a key code?
Thanks

Timothy

I think I have seen that keyway before. Maybe trying looking for Hurd key 1125 blank. Was trying to fin one that even Yale has some other lock loo like the Hurd padlock. Could be wong…..Tmothy…..

Timothy

Here’s one should look like yours. This was from eBay. I don’t know what the key blank number is for this key. I have tried to find the original blank but have not seen it any where…Timothy….

candado3

Thanks Timothy, your help is very much appreciated.
I looked up the 1125 blank and it looks like it may fit. I would never have thought to look for a padlock key blank in the automobile section of the catalogue under FORD.
How did you find that lock on eBay? When I looked it did not come up in the search.
Do you think that the numbers on the bottom are the key code?

Pschiffe

Timothy wrote
Here’s one should look like yours. This was from eBay. I don’t know what the key blank number is for this key. I have tried to find the original blank but have not seen it any where…Timothy….

I think is may be Old Yale 24-½ which crosses to the following per Blackhawk KBX:
F8 Alba, 711 Old Yale, 6XA Keil, YL2 Lotus, 132 Dominion, 132 Taylor, 253 Stewart, 476A Niessen , H132 Dominion, H132 HD, YA5S CEA, YA 5D JMA, YA10 Star, YA20 Kis, Y 109 Curtis, Y109 Cole Nat’l, YE18 RR, 1132 Ilco, H1132 Ilco, YI4RD Errebi, YA14R Silca, 2603F Graham, YAL25L Orion, 24½E8R Yale

Pete Schifferli

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Timothy

If you look up Hurd in the Ilco Catalog should be there. You would be surprise there are some key in the automobile section will work on some padlock. The two picture of Yale padlock, I found that in eBay long time ago. I copy it in case I get one of that padlock. I think I have one of that key at home but don’t where it at. The number on bottom should be the code number but keep this in mind some company will put there own code number on there padlock and key. I do it here at lock shop all the time so it make it easy to get the key make.
Pete thank for information. Just wonder if you have picture of the key blank…???….Timothy….

Pschiffe

Timothy wrote
Pete thank for information. Just wonder if you have picture of the key blank…???….Timothy….

Timothy, see thumbnail attached.

Pete Schifferli

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candado3

Thanks Pete but the profile of the keyway is different from the key that you have posted.
The right side is perfectly straight while on the key that you have posted there appears to be a groove or slot. Also the top of the lower part on the left side that juts out appears to be rounded where yours appears to be a right angle.

nathanbonstein

timothy,your 1125 works well,it is a 5 pin,also the m3 from masterlock,5pin to. if cut to 4 pin length both are real close at the shoulder stop.
but neither is the original. the j997m also works,but it is 6 pin,but none are original,they do work .

Ant

The key shown with the padlock the keyway Section is not dissimilar from the old 02 and 01 range of laminated padlocks made by Henry Squire who I think is long gone from Willenhall I remember cutting keys to those Squire Padlock from code key we kept as code was easily works out by the number of the Padlock

Timothy

Thank Pete for picture of the key. Candado3 you are right about the 24-½ blank but could be the way they make key for the padlock you have….
Ant have you got any picture of the Squire Padlock with key….???….Timothy….

Ant

hi Tim
I found the Henry Squire web site and the key profile is somewhat different than I remember though its probably 50 years I last had occasion to cut one As you can see the Squire range of padlocks is now the Lion and the Leopard see the link here http://www.squirelocks.co.uk/pdfs/squire_keys_and_key_blanks.pdf

Timothy

Thank Ant. Look like almost same at what Pete send. Too bad can’t still find key blank from Yale that look like 1125….Timothy…

Timothy

Just found two keys I has that would fit to the padlock…..Timothy….

candado3

Thanks Timothy,
They look like mirror images of what the lock in my original post would take.

Timothy

While looking thru some stuff of padlock and key I have found out there may be two key that will work with your padlock. One it Independent Blank #1071-C. The other on it Ilco 11805 XL mail box key blank. Both of these key are reverse of Hurd key blank 1125. The 1071-C I don’t think they make it anymore but can check to see if they do…..Timothy……

Pschiffe

Timothy wrote
While looking thru some stuff of padlock and key I have found out there may be two key that will work with your padlock. One it Independent Blank #1071-C. The other on it Ilco 11805 XL mail box key blank. Both of these key are reverse of Hurd key blank 1125. The 1071-C I don’t think they make it anymore but can check to see if they do…..Timothy……

The XL Ilco key blank is 1180S and yes, Ilco 1071C for Wilson-Bohannon is long discontinued.

Pete

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