Help Identifying Old Ornate Iron Padlock

timof5stars

I know that it may be impossible to identify this lock but I’m hoping someone here may recognize it - or be able to make a few educated guesses. There is no key - and the key likely would not operate the lock even if there was one. It is a very ornate lock both front and back with no identifying maker’s mark that I can see.

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bbcci

Nice lock Tim. It looks like one of a series of designs by Charles Beebe. He patented (#11041)the raised dot border design in 1879 and they were produced by the Norwich Lock Mfg. Co. in Connecticut in the 1880’s. His and John Gerard’s designs make up the bulk of the “scroll” locks as a sub grouping of “story locks”. If it is ever looking for a new home… please p.m. me.
Bill

timof5stars

Thanks Bill,

I’ve let the owner know what she’s got and asked her to get back in touch should she decide to sell it. I met her through a friend that knows I’m always looking for locks to buy and sell. She had a box of 40 or so - nearly all were fairly common and unfortunately, none of them had keys. Most were the kind of locks that, even with keys, sell on eBay for $8-$20. Without keys, maybe $2 each. Steel 6 level locks, a few low end Yales, one Yale was branded “TERROR” across the front. I’d never seen it before but a quick search of eBay found 3-4 with keys that sold for $18-$30

But the scroll lock stood out like a sore thumb. I told her I was no expert but that it might be something out of the ordinary. All of the rest of her locks appeared to be genuine - not much profit I’m guessing in Indian REPROs of Master Lock laminates. I asked if I could take a couple pictures and research a bit - that maybe I might find find someone familiar with it. I told her I couldn’t say for certain but that I suspected the ornate lock was authentic.

I searched eBay “sold items” but I could find no other similar locks so I told her I had no clue on price but advised her to go slow and not set it out at the consigner shop where she usually puts her stuff (She usually does not deal in locks).

I told her about the large number of reproductions from India and explained that I had be taken twice on a Keen Kutter. Surprisingly, it was the one lock she knew about. She had apparently collected some other Keen Kutter items, and she still had a Keen Kutter lock and would I like to see it? I then held what I believe to be the first authentic Keen Kutter ever. (see photo below).

Anyway, thanks again for your help. Here are some images that go withe the story

Tim

Billy B Edwards Jr. CML

timof5stars wrote
I know that it may be impossible to identify this lock but I’m hoping someone here may recognize it - or be able to make a few educated guesses. There is no key - and the key likely would not operate the lock even if there was one. It is a very ornate lock both front and back with no identifying maker’s mark that I can see
Thanks

There are a great many to lok through to find the exact same model, but you should be able to find it at the link.
BBE.

http://www.antique-padlocks.com/index.htm

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MissouriMan27

Theres a scroll lock at a local flea market near me. Owned by an old collector. He has a high price on it. One day I will wave some money in his direction to see if he will budge. His has a curtained lever tumbler mechanism and is nearly identical to the one pictured above.