Chubb safe identification and valuation.

grantharg

Hello,

I have recently relocated my Pharmacy and was wondering what to do with and how to identify my Chubb safe. I purchased the pharmacy with safe included about 10 years ago. The previous owner occupied the site for 25+ years and I assume he had the safe for that period. I have tried to determine its age, model, value etc too no avail. Still have both sets of keys and the safe is fully functional. Can you please offer me some assistance?

Safe weighs approx 800-1000kg.
Plate on Front door reads:

"By Royal Appointment
CHUBB
Lock & Safe Makers
128 Queen Victoria St
London"

Inside spine of door has 2 rectangular plates-1st has “61309” 2nd has fish emblem with “Chubb London”
2 locks are present both with same fish emblem covering key entry as a sliding shutter. 1st has “T” and 2nd has possibily a “B” or “R”
dimensions H:122cm D:610 W:710cm

Please advise if you require any further information. I’ll try and get some pictures on here soon

Thank you for your time and assistance

Grant Hargreaves.

grantharg

Huw Eastwood

Hello Grant, are you able to upload pictures of the safe? A full front view with door closed and also one with door open 90 degrees will help if you are able, hopefully someone can then ID it for you.

Most members on here are probably ‘more at home’ and familiar with our British market Chubb’s than those for other markets, as they sometimes released different models, different specs and different names etc for overseas markets, but hopefully we will recognise it.

BTW the makers plate looks in great condition, has a particularly nice colour to it.

grantharg

Hi Huw,

thanks for the initial information. I’ll see if I can get on site to take a picture of the door open at 90 degrees.

Grant

Huw Eastwood wrote
Hello Grant, are you able to upload pictures of the safe? A full front view with door closed and also one with door open 90 degrees will help if you are able, hopefully someone can then ID it for you.

Most members on here are probably ‘more at home’ and familiar with our British market Chubb’s than those for other markets, as they sometimes released different models, different specs and different names etc for overseas markets, but hopefully we will recognise it.

BTW the makers plate looks in great condition, has a particularly nice colour to it.

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Chubby

Is there a number struck into the top edge of the door? That would give you the exact weight.

Paul Prescott

The serial number gives a build date of 1908.

grantharg

grantharg wrote
Hi Huw,

thanks for the initial information. I’ll see if I can get on site to take a picture of the door open at 90 degrees.

Grant

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grantharg

Hello and thanks for your information. I sort of am in disbelief that it’s almost 110 years old!! How do I source more information regarding this? Did you use the “61309” number struck into the plate on the door?

Grant

oldlock wrote
The serial number gives a build date of 1908.

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Huw Eastwood

Hello Grant if you are able to take one as above but a bit more to the right in order to show the edge of the doors profile it might help reveal some more clues. Not ringing any immediate bells for me unfortunately.

The ‘D’ pull, handle and escutcheons Are what I’d have expected on a far more recent safe tbh, judging by the overall style and shape of the hinges and moulding on the door etc.

Chubby

BTW the characters on the keys are T (top) and B (bottom).

Is one a pipe blank and the other a pin blank? They used to do that if the safe was manufactured with 2 locks.

Have you had the lock case off?

grantharg

Hi Chubby,

Excuse my my ignorance but I don’t know what you mean by ‘pipe blank’ and ‘pin blank’. The locks open with two unique keys.

Grant

Chubby wrote
BTW the characters on the keys are T (top) and B (bottom).

Is one a pipe blank and the other a pin blank? They used to do that if the safe was manufactured with 2 locks.

Have you had the lock case off?

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Chubby

Is one key hollow and the other solid?

grantharg

Ill check tmr on site. Also I have not taken lock case off. Will this shed more light on matters?

Chubby wrote
Is one key hollow and the other solid?

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safeman

The metric dimensions given have mislead me, coming as I do from an Imperial age, but if they are in fact 4ft.0in. high by 2ft.4in. wide by 2ft.0in.deep then I believe the safe is as illustrated, apart from the internal asbestos door depicted.

Having two locks it would appear to be the Jewel Quality. The catalogue from which this is taken dates from 1915.

grantharg

Hi,

Yes that is it. I have attached another picture.

safeman wrote
The metric dimensions given have mislead me, coming as I do from an Imperial age, but if they are in fact 4ft.0in. high by 2ft.4in. wide by 2ft.0in.deep then I believe the safe is as illustrated, apart from the internal asbestos door depicted.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]16921[/ATTACH] Having two locks it would appear to be the Jewel Quality. The catalogue from which this is taken dates from 1915.

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