Brian Morland MLA Hon Finally found what I was looking for. There is an article in S&VT v5 No7 p15 on the J Weimar lock patented 1854. How Ratner got a patent for essentially the same principle is a mystery.
Gary Stephenson Proper safes, a modern safe showroom would not be as impressive. Think I worked on that diamond down at woden rd, the fantail levers were pinned and the composite was missing although it still had the 5 spindle, a true thing of beauty that safe.
Gary Stephenson Is the LEEMATIC what Ratner called that isolating system then, have worked on a nightsafe and strongroom door with that system recently, first time I had seen it so must be quite a rarity