Gary Stephenson I have seen a John Tann safe plate fom 117 newgate st, with 2 dragons on the crest, rather than the lion and horse / unicorn one i normally see, is this a kosher plate or a knock off?
safeman Gary Stephenson wroteI have seen a John Tann safe plate fom 117 newgate st, with 2 dragons on the crest, rather than the lion and horse / unicorn one i normally see, is this a kosher plate or a knock off? This will be an Excelsior Quality. I suppose this falls into the area where some makers compete to see who can offer the cheapest safe. The attached is Bill Stanton’s detailed description of the safe. [unknown]
safeman safeman wroteThis will be an Excelsior Quality. I suppose this falls into the area where some makers compete to see who can offer the cheapest safe. The attached is Bill Stanton’s detailed description of the safe. [ATTACH=CONFIG]23862[/ATTACH] Here’s an example. Tokens were traded like Green Stamps and here is an example found when scavenging the Thames shore. They offer a Tann safe for £5. Note: Not John Tann but R.Tann, Defiance Safes. [unknown]
Gary Stephenson cheers John, very interesting, I am now looking for info on Excelsior quality safes, will post up anything I find. Here is the plate in question
Brian Morland MLA Hon Acording to the late Mike Fincher from his notes for this artefact “with City of London crest”
safeman Syd Waterman wroteLondon Excelsior safe plate. No Manufacturer name. John Tann from 1913. [unknown]
Syd Waterman Attached Flyer Detailing Specifications and sizes available issued by The Excelsior Safe Co; 117 Newgate Street, London ,EC1
safeman Syd Waterman wroteAttached Flyer Detailing Specifications and sizes available issued by The Excelsior Safe Co; 117 Newgate Street, London ,EC1 Great help Syd -thank you. As Bill Stanton’s notes tell us many of these safes were ‘made out’. These illustrations shout Samuel Withers. [unknown]
Syd Waterman Hi John, You could be correct thinking Samuel Withers. Attached page from their catalogue, showing very similar safe design , specifications and sizes available.
safeman Gary Stephenson wrotecheers John, very interesting, I am now looking for info on Excelsior quality safes, will post up anything I find. Here is the plate in question To help start your search here’s one or two examples from my Gallery. [unknown]
Syd Waterman Page from J. Tann’s 1906 catalogue advertising New Special Fire-Resisting Strong Room Doors. A Special Line at the Lowest Limit of Prices. Note badge on door “Tann’s Excelsior London”
