another chubb key

Tom Gordon

This one doesnt have a number but does have some odd turning work.
What do you all think of it?

Timbo

Hi Tom
Nice Chubb key you have there.
I have not seen one with the same turning like that but a very nice very nice example of Chubbs keywork.
I once had a Chubbs Detector Rim Deadlock of very early manufacture with two original keys, but they were quite plain in comparison with the turning on yours. Unfortunately, I sold the lock !!! what a mistake that was. Wish that I kept it now.

magpie

Hello Tom,

Chubb seemed to have changed their design for the turning near to the bow on PIN keys, from three plain bands to a more fancy design when they moved to 128 Queen Victoria Street in about 1877. The attached photos agree with this rule of thumb with one exception, which must have been made around 1877. However, they retained the three plain bands for their PIPE keys well into the twentieth century. I wonder why the turning style, after 1877, was determined by whether it was for a pin or a pipe key?

Karl.

Paul Prescott

Looks fine to me Tom, I used to own several like it. That’s the one that someone has been re-re-re-re-listing on ebay for at least a year or so ??

Ant

oldlock wrote
Looks fine to me Tom, I used to own several like it. That’s the one that someone has been re-re-re-re-listing on ebay for at least a year or so ??

Whats the item number please oldlock

I see that these are mostly bullet warded Chubb grille keys in the right hand picture as to the shank designs i.e the turned style I note some minor difference but as these blanks were more than likely bought in (stamped after key had been cut) there could have been a change in supplier, this is the most probable reason for the key turning differing
But then Its just a thought.
Regards Anthony

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EuropeLocks

Hi. Here are two Chubb SPC keys from my collection. The bow on the larger one is different than the ones pictured. Any idea as to what they were used for and when? Mid 1800’s maybe?

Paul Prescott

The first key is probably for a padlock, and would have been for a master suited set of padlocks. 1851 - 1876 in date.

The second key would be 1835 - 1851 in date.

Brian Denyer

Nice key.
Here is another one Chubb like yours but a bit thicker.

KitBear

To think that I now actually need this key for one of my locks, I didn’t at the time.

I hope the seller will re-list it sometime.

Brian Denyer

Which are you referring to?
There are several shown.

KitBear

Brian Denyer wrote
Which are you referring to?
There are several shown.

The 1st Chubb key from 1877, sorry I should have stated that.

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Brian Denyer

The only time you need a key is when it is gone, sold or traded to another collector LOL
I had one that I traded and had to wait over 20 years for it to listed at a auction.
Being determined I won it back.

KitBear

Yeah but I think he would have chucked it thinking it was valueless, I think I might just collect keys as well, I feel like kicking myself because I was thinking of buying it but decided against it 🙁punch):

Brian Denyer

The joys of finding and collecting.
When browsing Antique Flea markets I always look
for old bit key blanks.
Or else samples of the older cuts.
Then I can get a blank caste from a brass original
by filling in the original cuts.
It is expensive but I do try to exchange some of my services.
The local High School offers a bronze casting course
which allows a student to learn casting from the ground up.
Additionally I keep a Parts box of the more popular Warded Locks
used in the province for cannibalization.
A few of the Antique Dealers will find antique hardware and keep it on the side for me.
Then we do a straight exchange.
They have old Lever locks that need to be re-keyed or repaired.
One time I went and a person opened a Warded Lock Case and dropped the parts.
They couldn’t get the pieces back in.
So I placed them back in order and worked the key..an onlooker purchased the lock right away.