Huw Eastwood Here’s another I found while looking for the old Chubb Hercules. Unused and still in the box, complete with original keys, strike, screws and card. I liked the mini flyer pushing the British materials and workers 🙁happy):
Arcade Al Fantastic item! Any idea when it would date from, roughly? I haven’t ever been able to ever find any really useful information detailing the evolution of the Yale-style night latch.
Huw Eastwood I always thought these were 1920’s Al, perhaps into the 30’s, with a lot lasting around into the war years, but now I’m wondering if they might go back even earlier? haven’t found out much as yet, but then I’m more into safe and patent locks so I can’t say I’ve really tried digging that hard.
Arcade Al Could well be, would love to know more for certain. There must be someone who specialises in these types of lock… we just need to find them! 🙂
Huw Eastwood Thanks Dean- when I did have a quick look around it amazed me at how many variations there were of the green and white boxes 🙁y):
Arcade Al Dean Nickel wroteThe markings on the box match a catalogs just after WWI. So 1918-1930 That certainly sounds right. [unknown]
KitBear I don’t know of the model number or what it could have been used for, it couldn’t be a cupboard because it has an inside release and is inward opening but anyway here’s mine I’ve found up, sadly no box. Not as big but interesting, I just wish that it was in better condition. Kit
Adrian Weber Hey Max, a VERY nice piece again, can’t believe I missed that one 🙁nerd): It reminds me a bit of my antique Kromer Novum Lock, I have to repost that one… Adrian
Richard Phillips At one time I had a latch with nozzle, and still have both types of key. Yale used the term ‘Junior’ for its non-pin tumbler locks - mainly warded. Pre-1931 Yale locks in UK were made by H&T Vaughan, and were so marked, before Yale bought the company. So I suggest these are made in 1930’s. There were also non-pin tumbler locks from the Yale range made in Britain by the Anglo-American Lock Co in Willenhall, pre-WWII. The second one appears to be made in USA.
Pschiffe chubbbramah wroteAt one time I had a latch with nozzle, and still have both types of key. Yale used the term ‘Junior’ for its non-pin tumbler locks - mainly warded. Pre-1931 Yale locks in UK were made by H&T Vaughan, and were so marked, before Yale bought the company. So I suggest these are made in 1930’s. There were also non-pin tumbler locks from the Yale range made in Britain by the Anglo-American Lock Co in Willenhall, pre-WWII. The second one appears to be made in USA. Yale No. 26 Rim Springlatch, warded, found in Yale catalogs dated 1929 and 1940 on this side of the pond. “Yale Junior” marque cast into lock case. The form “Yale Junior” /I on goods of lower grade and cheaper construction for use where high quality hardware and lock security are not essential.* *from Yale Cat. No. 26 © 1929 Pete Schifferli [unknown]
billdeserthills Pschiffe wroteYale No. 26 Rim Springlatch, warded, found in Yale catalogs dated 1929 and 1940 on this side of the pond. “Yale Junior” marque cast into lock case. The form “Yale Junior” /I on goods of lower grade and cheaper construction for use where high quality hardware and lock security are not essential.* *from Yale Cat. No. 26 © 1929 Pete Schifferli By far the nicest wording I have ever read for "economy grade" [unknown]
Huw Eastwood Thank you all for the replies, dates and info Chubbbramah- I had no idea that H&TV made the early British Yale stuff- I’m familiar with them and have a couple of rim cyls with their distinctive H&TV key bows somewhere, but didn’t realize they’d manufactured for Yale 🙁y):
Richard Phillips Yale began to export to Europe and Britain before the end of the 19C. In Britain, they made a licence agreement with a large builders’ hardware company, H&T Vaughan. Following a death in the board, the now elderly members of the board decided to sell the family company to Yale in 1929.
